May 24, 2006, 12:46 PM // 12:46
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#21
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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There's plenty of European influence in Asia, from French in IndoChina to German in China. Portugese were in Japan in 1600. Take your pick, it's easy to justify a German house in an Asian land.
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May 24, 2006, 12:56 PM // 12:56
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#22
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Ascalonian Squire
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Cantha in GW /= China or Japan in the real world. They can do what they like regarding names.
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May 24, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14
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#23
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: huh?
Guild: The Final Exodus[FX]
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Originally Posted by generik
As a ethnic chinese I found the names of the Luxon and Kurzick NPCs somewhat intriguing.. considering they are all natives of Cantha which seems like a imperial japan/ancient china kind of society.
Is it just me? Or does the Kurzicks seem to be of german origin? I'm pretty sure there is no family name in any asian culture that sounds remotely like "Heitzer", although I can't say the same for "Zu". Likewise the Luxons, don't they seem greek? For instance Elder Rhea (Rhea is the name of a greek goddess apparently) and more tellingly the Spear of Archimodes, if that's not some greeky name I have no idea what it is.
So what the hell are the greeks and the germans doing in Cantha?!
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It is saposed to look like a western Russian Orthodox theme IMO(Btw my family is from that area of asia and i like that touch alot TY A-net), and in that the did a wonderful job in creating the House, I dont think I could have imagined it as beutiful. others might disagree but that does not change the fact that it is western asian/estern russian and that it makes me enjoy it so much.
Also they are the developers of the game, they can add, take away, and distribute what they want. If you make the game then you can put pink dandilions(sp?) and other trinkets , or you can make it asian or any other theme u would need.
Last edited by jonnybegood; May 24, 2006 at 02:25 PM // 14:25..
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May 24, 2006, 04:48 PM // 16:48
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#24
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: International Districts
Guild: The Labyrinth of Night [LoN]
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by generik
Is it just me? Or does the Kurzicks seem to be of german origin? I'm pretty sure there is no family name in any asian culture that sounds remotely like "Heitzer", although I can't say the same for "Zu".
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"Zu" is another definite article indicating German noblitity, much like "Von."
I am also ethnic Chinese. The Kurzicks and Luxons, culturally, have nothing to do with Chinese or Japanese culture. The Kurzicks easily fit into the feudal culture of Medieval Europe, well enough, and the Luxons are a mishmash of various nomadic tribes found in the real world.
Last edited by jciardha; May 24, 2006 at 04:52 PM // 16:52..
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May 24, 2006, 04:48 PM // 16:48
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#25
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio, TX
Profession: W/R
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Even in real life we have some similiarities (not the exact ones, but similarities nonetheless). Not everyone within the borders of the Roman Empire was even Roman, much less racially homogenous. The same went for the Greek Empire under Alexander, which including many lands as well. Even the Mongolians and Huns had branched out into far away lands. There's no reason that the Kaineng culture can't have control over the other cultures. Besides, just because Germans and Greeks were far away from the orient here doesn't mean in some alternate version they couldn't have intertwined somehow. The terrain that they live in also makes a big difference. The Luxons were mostly seafaring and the Kurzicks were mostly tree huggers (elf-like as someone pointed out).
My suggestion: do something to shutdown your logical side for a while. your creative side will thank you for it.. :-)
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May 25, 2006, 11:49 PM // 23:49
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#26
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: germany
Guild: [CG]
Profession: N/Me
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German nobility would have been called 'Von Heltzer' not 'Zu Heltzer' Von being from and Zu being to.
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most german nobles are named after the region or city they are from like "von bayern" or "von baden".the word "zu" was mostly used as an addition when the family moved or got new property.so members of the family "von bayern" living in a castle named "waldburg" would have called themselves "von bayern zu waldburg".its very common that both von and zu appear in combination as well as solo.
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Jun 01, 2006, 05:11 AM // 05:11
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#27
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Journeyman
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: R/Mo
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even more Greek-ness in the Luxon culture: Elder Rhea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhea_%28mythology%29
too much to summarize there, but it has something to do with Rhea being a Titaness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhea_Silvia
Here, it says that Rhea was the mother of Romulus and Remus, who founded Rome. or, more like, Romulus killed his brother and then founded Rome.
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Jun 01, 2006, 06:36 AM // 06:36
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#28
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Wilds Pathfinder
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I feel it is a Star Wars thing. Make a bunch of drastically different environments to keep the fantasy interesting. Lends to the whole epic feel. I would enjoy a game where differences between areas existed but were more subtle.
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Jun 01, 2006, 07:19 AM // 07:19
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#29
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: pit of brimstone
Guild: Squad Six Six Six [ssss]
Profession: A/Me
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anet was showing us the path way, they go asian, then russian to german, to greek, to now they gonna go northern africa.. so from greece they are ALSO going over a body of water and will be arriving in egypt!! the tombs of the kings and the pyramids await thee!!
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Jun 01, 2006, 07:22 AM // 07:22
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#30
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: pit of brimstone
Guild: Squad Six Six Six [ssss]
Profession: A/Me
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oh and u know what for the record - i predict there will be pharow armor. i got a feeling!!
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Jun 01, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08
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#31
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Right next to the armor crafter.
Profession: Mo/
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I believe the oriental feeling in HzH is the NPCs' hairdos
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Jun 01, 2006, 03:16 PM // 15:16
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#32
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: So Cal
Guild: The Sinister Vanguard
Profession: Me/
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Remember, they said Asian themed not Asian. There's definitely an Asian flavor in Cantha, especially the city area. The Luxon and Kurzicks, however, are unique and a combination of various flavors of cultures. To flat out compare them to historic cultures on a one to one comparison is like comparing apples and crepes.
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